Comments on: Mapping Kuwait’s Connection to the Internet http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/ My own opinion and view about everything ! Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:16:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: hamad http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-96 hamad Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:32:05 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-96 first of all .. this is some great website you have shared with us .. but i am affraid to infrom you that kuwait is linked to the internet thru alot of links .. and this is information based on what i work and where i work .. kuwait isp's have links thru .. Kuwait to Dubai thru : gulf sea cable Kuwait to Dubai thru : Satalite link Kuwait to Riyadh thru : land cable and gulf cable Kuwait to New York thru : land cable and there are some that i cant mention .. for a profesionalissim in networking you cant ever have one source of conectivity .. every ISP has at least 2 routes .. and each isp in kuwait have defferent methods of conectivity to the internet backbone based in the USA so . this tool is a nice tool .. but i will be happy to provide you with the real diagram if you are interested .. first of all .. this is some great website you have shared with us .. but i am affraid to infrom you that kuwait is linked to the internet thru alot of links .. and this is information based on what i work and where i work ..

kuwait isp’s have links thru ..

Kuwait to Dubai thru : gulf sea cable
Kuwait to Dubai thru : Satalite link
Kuwait to Riyadh thru : land cable and gulf cable
Kuwait to New York thru : land cable

and there are some that i cant mention ..

for a profesionalissim in networking you cant ever have one source of conectivity .. every ISP has at least 2 routes .. and each isp in kuwait have defferent methods of conectivity to the internet backbone based in the USA so .

this tool is a nice tool .. but i will be happy to provide you with the real diagram if you are interested ..

]]> By: Intlxpatr http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-97 Intlxpatr Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:38:18 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-97 That is absolutely fascinating. A paranoid might think it is a control issue, and a realist might shrug his shoulders and say that it is typical of the short-sighted way Kuwait plans for contingencies, like electricity, water, roads . . . .not a lot of emphasis on infrastructure. That is absolutely fascinating. A paranoid might think it is a control issue, and a realist might shrug his shoulders and say that it is typical of the short-sighted way Kuwait plans for contingencies, like electricity, water, roads . . . .not a lot of emphasis on infrastructure.

]]> By: MrMMM http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-98 MrMMM Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:02:02 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-98 Hamad: Thanks for correcting the post, I'm actually happy to be wrong on this ( and have already edited it ) .. (These diagrams show the connections between the cities whether there are multiple links between them or not .. ) But you can still see that Kuwait is the least connected country among all GCC countries .. Intlxpatr: there were incidents where a whole ISP and it's users were disconnected because of a problems in the LINK and I'd hate to see that happen again .. Hamad:
Thanks for correcting the post, I’m actually happy to be wrong on this ( and have already edited it ) ..

(These diagrams show the connections between the cities whether there are multiple links between them or not .. )

But you can still see that Kuwait is the least connected country among all GCC countries ..

Intlxpatr: there were incidents where a whole ISP and it’s users were disconnected because of a problems in the LINK and I’d hate to see that happen again ..

]]> By: hamad http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-99 hamad Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:06:25 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-99 Welcome.. and to be honest .. yes we are the least .. because the people resposible for the internet backbone have choosen riyadh and dubai to be centreal nodes in the gulf region so its not our decision if we want to connect to more .. and we have almost 4 links to dubai now .. and 5 to riyadh .. the main thing is not how much cities .. its always conected .. and always available .. and the quality of service .. dont worry .. we are in the highest catigories and believe it .. dubai is a mowaze3 kahraba not a provider .. no one in the gulf can control anything .. not even the ip addreses .. Welcome..

and to be honest .. yes we are the least .. because the people resposible for the internet backbone have choosen riyadh and dubai to be centreal nodes in the gulf region so its not our decision if we want to connect to more .. and we have almost 4 links to dubai now .. and 5 to riyadh .. the main thing is not how much cities .. its always conected .. and always available .. and the quality of service .. dont worry .. we are in the highest catigories and believe it .. dubai is a mowaze3 kahraba not a provider .. no one in the gulf can control anything .. not even the ip addreses ..

]]> By: MrMMM http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-100 MrMMM Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:50:13 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-100 Hamad: well it's good to know that we are in the highest categories .. but we are still greedy for more redundancy to avoid some of the incidents that happened before .. Hamad: well it’s good to know that we are in the highest categories .. but we are still greedy for more redundancy to avoid some of the incidents that happened before ..

]]> By: hamad http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-101 hamad Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:52:27 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-101 well .. to be more frank .. it only happened to one ISP provider.. name i cant say .. the others were working fine .. ako ISP bel 3alam .. that has a route for a certain line and doesnt have imediate back up ???? 3 hours down .. and when i call them they say : he said : we are rerouting all the traffic to another backbone and other routers .. i said : manually .? he said : yes manual .. why .?? ( smile ) i said : and you call your selfs proffesional a ISP. ( shocked ) he said : why .. this is our way .. i said : the least proffesional netowrk must have at least a back up line which has an automatic reroute .. just incase .. well .. this is the deal when you give an ISP to people who think they can handle it .. they think its only about Cisco knowledge , ATM and fiber optics with shwayat knowledge in configurations .. and wala .. im an administrator .. heh .. 1.Strategy 2.Conectivity 3.redundancy 4.disaster recovery. 5. a packet of cigaretts with a guy elee eyeblik chay or coffee when a bad thing happens and you sit in server room :P anyway .. chenee garagt wayed :) well .. to be more frank .. it only happened to one ISP provider..
name i cant say .. the others were working fine ..

ako ISP bel 3alam .. that has a route for a certain line and doesnt have imediate back up ????

3 hours down .. and when i call them they say :

he said : we are rerouting all the traffic to another backbone and other routers ..

i said : manually .?

he said : yes manual .. why .??

( smile ) i said : and you call your selfs proffesional a ISP.

( shocked ) he said : why .. this is our way ..

i said : the least proffesional netowrk must have at least a back up line which has an automatic reroute .. just incase ..

well ..

this is the deal when you give an ISP to people who think they can handle it ..

they think its only about Cisco knowledge , ATM and fiber optics with shwayat knowledge in configurations .. and wala .. im an administrator .. heh ..

1.Strategy
2.Conectivity
3.redundancy
4.disaster recovery.
5. a packet of cigaretts with a guy elee eyeblik chay or coffee when a bad thing happens and you sit in server room :P

anyway .. chenee garagt wayed :)

]]> By: speedy http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-102 speedy Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:10:33 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-102 one link from basra will give us great redunduncy ;-) we have links to jeddah as well and about basra we will be a good candidate to provide iraq with internet if things are settled, but do we think business? thanks for the post one link from basra will give us great redunduncy ;-)

we have links to jeddah as well

and about basra we will be a good candidate to provide iraq with internet if things are settled, but do we think business?

thanks for the post

]]> By: Bashar http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-103 Bashar Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:27:49 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-103 MrMMM: I wish we can get more from you as your posts are so useful. Especially when they attract more insightful people like iHamad. Thank you for adding to the post. Keep it up. MrMMM: I wish we can get more from you as your posts are so useful. Especially when they attract more insightful people like iHamad. Thank you for adding to the post.

Keep it up.

]]> By: MrMMM http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-104 MrMMM Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:44:55 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-104 Hamad: An outage of this kind happened only to one ISP and that wasn't a long time ago .. LoL, sometimes they come up with the weirdest execuses and replies like "rerouting traffic manually!!!!" if that's they're way it's much better for them not to give more details about it :P this reminded me of that time when there was a fire in another ISP and the internet was slow to a point that it's useless .. so I called the customer service asking them whether they they had backup or not and if they did how come it's not connected through that backup already? so her answer was that the police are talking with all the engineers and staff about the cause of the fire and they can't go and connect to the backup because of that !!!! i'm no expert but I think that the idea of disaster recovery is that when Servers are down because of an urgent disater situation, some servers in another physical location automatically replace those servers ( let's just hope that she's been watching too much TV and made that up ) """ 1.Strategy 2.Conectivity 3.redundancy 4.disaster recovery. 5. a packet of cigaretts with a guy elee eyeblik chay or coffee when a bad thing happens and you sit in server room """ Nice plan , you just have to come up with an alternative for number 5 if it happens these days during the day :P be my guest egre3 3ala ra7tik, sometimes the comments are more informative than the post itself and i think they are in this case :) -- Speedy: I think that the ministry of defense will be in charge of this link :P Do you know which ISP is gonna provide that ? Bashar: Thanks a lot :) as i mentioned it's one of the posts where the comments, feedback and discussion about the post is so useful .. Hamad:
An outage of this kind happened only to one ISP and that wasn’t a long time ago ..

LoL, sometimes they come up with the weirdest execuses and replies like “rerouting traffic manually!!!!” if that’s they’re way it’s much better for them not to give more details about it :P

this reminded me of that time when there was a fire in another ISP and the internet was slow to a point that it’s useless ..

so I called the customer service asking them whether they they had backup or not and if they did how come it’s not connected through that backup already?

so her answer was that the police are talking with all the engineers and staff about the cause of the fire and they can’t go and connect to the backup because of that !!!!

i’m no expert but I think that the idea of disaster recovery is that when Servers are down because of an urgent disater situation,
some servers in another physical location automatically replace those servers

( let’s just hope that she’s been watching too much TV and made that up )

“”" 1.Strategy
2.Conectivity
3.redundancy
4.disaster recovery.
5. a packet of cigaretts with a guy elee eyeblik chay or coffee when a bad thing happens and you sit in server room

“”"

Nice plan , you just have to come up with an alternative for number 5 if it happens these days during the day :P

be my guest egre3 3ala ra7tik, sometimes the comments are more informative than the post itself and i think they are in this case :)

–

Speedy:

I think that the ministry of defense will be in charge of this link :P
Do you know which ISP is gonna provide that ?

Bashar:
Thanks a lot :) as i mentioned it’s one of the posts where the comments, feedback and discussion about the post is so useful ..

]]> By: speedy http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-105 speedy Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:53:11 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-105 well ministry of defense will be a good candidate if we plan to attack them with that link ;-) iraq is way behind technology because of the wars, but kuwait is a good candidate to be a uplink provider for iraq in the future, iraq population is 27 million while only 36 thousand uses internet! thats 0.1% well ministry of defense will be a good candidate if we plan to attack them with that link ;-)

iraq is way behind technology because of the wars, but kuwait is a good candidate to be a uplink provider for iraq in the future, iraq population is 27 million while only 36 thousand uses internet! thats 0.1%

]]> By: hamad http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-106 hamad Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:31:21 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-106 about the fire .. well .. someone called me for help over there .. and i went .. and yes .. the police was sorrounding the whole place and i had to sneak in with a fellow officer to do something for them :) hopefully the link was up . yes it was slow .. but they were fully operational within 3 days .. now give me an ISP here in kuwait that can do that .. i was so amazed and dissapointed at the same time .. because of what you mentioned .. which is another physical location :) well .. we always learn from others mistakes .. and i also heard about an ISP who is willing to give a MOBILE satalite transmitter for who can pay that much incase of an emergency .. now thats what i need in " almutla3 desert " when i go camping for the winter :) basra line will be a tender .. that will of course be given to someone they have already choosen :) welcome to kuwait .. where the cake is cut into pieces and have the names on it before you even see it :) about the fire .. well .. someone called me for help over there .. and i went .. and yes .. the police was sorrounding the whole place and i had to sneak in with a fellow officer to do something for them :)

hopefully the link was up . yes it was slow .. but they were fully operational within 3 days .. now give me an ISP here in kuwait that can do that .. i was so amazed and dissapointed at the same time .. because of what you mentioned .. which is another physical location :)

well .. we always learn from others mistakes ..

and i also heard about an ISP who is willing to give a MOBILE satalite transmitter for who can pay that much incase of an emergency ..

now thats what i need in ” almutla3 desert ” when i go camping for the winter :)

basra line will be a tender .. that will of course be given to someone they have already choosen :) welcome to kuwait .. where the cake is cut into pieces and have the names on it before you even see it :)

]]> By: Ali Deera Chat http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-107 Ali Deera Chat Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:41:18 +0000 http://rayey.com/2007/10/07/mapping-kuwaits-connection-to-the-internet/#comment-107 dude ... AMAZING WORK .... i think i am in love with this Harrison guy dude … AMAZING WORK …. i think i am in love with this Harrison guy

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